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Comprehensive and Complex Thoughts On Bill Snyder's Return

Everyone should know by now that I don't see the world in black-and-white.  Without getting too philosophical, I do believe there is a right and a wrong, but the real world rarely allows for nice, clean distinctions between the two.  In every situation, the context and background facts will shape our judgment regarding whether the decision made in response to the situation was "right" or "wrong."  However, the objective facts behind the situation almost never make for an easy, black-and-white judgment.

That's why you won't hear me say that hiring Bill Snyder was "right" or "wrong."  A lot of what went into the situation makes me very, very disappointed in the decision that was made.  On the other hand, I can't turn off the purple tint through which I see the world, which permits me to find some ways in which this could work out.

Judging by the comments in the press conference open thread regarding the facts and opinions expressed by several local journalists, I share with a lot of you a deep disappointment in the way this situation was handled.  If we take at face value the information provided by the media members linked above, there was no coaching search done.  Neither Gary Patterson nor his agent were ever contacted, nor was Patterson ever considered.  We didn't think about taking a look at Turner Gill or Todd Graham or checking in to see if Jim Leavitt had changed his mind.

Of course, none of that should surprise us.  Bob Krause, a university administrator with no athletic department experience, is "in charge" of our athletic department.  He's being overseen by Jon Wefald, who has less than zero athletic department experience and has a track record (Jim Wooldridge, Ron Prince) for throwing his weight around at exactly the wrong time.

With all these sources indicating that Snyder was the only man ever considered for the job, I am at a loss to explain what was behind the initial Gary Patterson rumors.  I know Tim Fitzgerald from GoPowercat.com, and there is no way he fabricated that story.  Friends of mine from Nebraska and Texas told me that very day they were hearing the same thing.  Bob Lutz wrote the very next day that sources were telling Jeffrey Martin of the Wichita Eagle the very same thing.  With no further information, I'm left to speculate about how all this information came out, and the only conclusion I can reach is that it was intentionally fabricated to make it appear that Krause and Wefald actually engaged in this thing known as a coaching search.

Conventional wisdom holds that, when you fire a coach, you have a search to replace him.  Maybe you appoint a search committee, maybe you hire an outside agency.  Either way, you get some people who know what you're looking for and identify some candidates that fit that criteria.  While conventional wisdom is not always the best method of attacking a problem, there is a reason it's known as "conventional."  In most situations, it works.  I have grown tired of defending the unconventional actions of the K-State administration because, while there is a chance that a non-conventional approach to a problem will work, odds are that it won't. 

Think of it in blackjack terms.  Sure, you could hit on 18, but the odds of you picking up a three, deuce or ace are very low.  Sure, we could hire an unproven offensive coordinator from a middle-of-the-road ACC team who has no ties to the Big 12, but the odds that he will turn out to be a good coach are extremely low.  Sure, we could rehire a coaching legend who has been out of the game for three years, but the odds that he will resurrect this program are similarly low.  I should put a star next to that pending who his assistant coaches will be.

Beyond merely gambling on Snyder, we are entrenching the image that K-State football is nothing without Snyder at the helm.  K-State was never any good at football before Snyder arrived, and in the infinitesimally small sample size since Snyder retired, the Cats haven't been any good since he left. 

The solution to this problem, however, is not to go running back to the one coach who has ever had success at your institution.  The solution is to identify the next coach who you believe is most likely to have long-term success at your institution.  While Snyder instantly gives K-State the best head coach in the Big 12 North, as Panjandrum and others mentioned in the open thread, it remains very much an open question whether he will be able to lead us back to even the modest successes of seven- or eight-win seasons, and a much bigger question as to whether he will be a long-term solution at age 69.  At best, we can hope that he will hire a few dynamic assistants and, when the time comes to step down for good, one of them will be prepared to lead K-State into the future.

Here, however, is where I disagree slightly with the sentiments expressed by others and have actually changed my opinion somewhat recently.  Lutz writes that Wefald is putting Snyder's reputation and legacy at risk by rehiring him now.  But no matter what happens this time around, nothing can tarnish Bill Snyder's legacy.  What he accomplished in Manhattan cannot be taken away, changed, altered or replaced.  What is done is done, and nothing will change it.

However, Wefald and Krause are putting their legacies at risk.  For all their faults athletically, that pair took over a moribund state university with 16,000 students in 1986 and made it an impressive academic institution of which its alums can be proud.  I take great pride in telling people that I went to K-State, and I know those of you who went to school there do, too.  We owe an awful lot of that pride, at least academically speaking, to Wefald and Krause.

In addition, we can take pride in what has been accomplished athletically by K-State.  A remote state-school with a small budget has been able to produce competitive teams in football, men's basketball, women's basketball, volleyball, and occasionally other sports.  The fact that Wefald and Krause recognize athletics as a crucial component to the success of a major university is to their credit.

Unfortunately, that recognition has turned into an obsession that has led to a series of bad decisions that threaten to undo a substantial portion of the good that this duo has done at K-State.  Wefald changed K-State from an academic afterthought to a school that I spurned my home-state University of Nebraska to attend.  He had a hand in changing it from a football disgrace to one of the premier programs in the Big 8/12 for a 10-year stretch.  Now, he may be remembered more for having a hand in moving us from historic Ahearn Fieldhouse to Bramlage Coliseum, nearly destroying our proud basketball tradition, hiring an unproven and unprepared offensive coordinator from Virginia, and for running back to a legend because he hadn't put the proper personnel in place to conduct a proper coaching search.

Good luck, Bill Snyder.  Jon Wefald's legacy is in your hands.

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Good read.

The dominoes are all in the wrong place. I think Krause would probably be okay as University president, so long as he doesn’t meddle in athletics. Let a real AD do that job. Get out, move up and delegate. Of course, if Krause moves up, who will be AD? My favorite for this position (Snyder) is now committed to coaching. Doh!

by MadCat on Nov 24, 2008 3:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sheahon Zenger

will be the next A.D. I have a feeling it’s only a matter of when. Granted this is just my speculation, but he does at least have experience in the field. Can’t be worse than what we have now. We wanted him when Weiser bolted, but he had only been at Illinois State for a year or two. Once the new U.P. is in place, he’ll be back.

by gw1754 on Nov 24, 2008 4:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you're right

We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats

by TB on Nov 24, 2008 7:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You think you're pissed?

Lance Harbor was sure he’d be interim HC by Thanksgiving next year.

Now he’ll be pushing carts at the West Canaan Wal-Mart.

"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards

by Panjandrum on Nov 24, 2008 3:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Harbor was overrated.

I mean, what kind of coach signals “hook and ladder” by actually hooking his mouth and acting like he’s climbing a ladder? Even Mike Gundy can get that right.

by EMAW on Nov 24, 2008 7:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know...

I think Harbor’s on staff at OSU, and the hook and ladder wasn’t as hard to read as you’d think:

Pinkel for America '08
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by RPT on Nov 25, 2008 8:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we did contact Patterson...

And he angrily responded, “Ay don’t wunt yer liiife!”

Better dead than blue and red (unless, of course, they are combined to make purple)

by PDXCat on Nov 24, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Question

Does this that we’re going to have Bill 5 years, and then have to get another Ron Prince because no one wants to follow a legend? So we’re talking at least another 8 or 9 years before we decide to move forward.

The more I think about it, Bill was probably right when he said his first retirement was not the right time. I consider him to be a very thoughtful person, and someone who processes his decisions. If he had anticipated leaving – he would have taken the correct steps to make sure there were preparations for the future, and judging by the Ron Prince hire – there weren’t.

Hopefully, he can take the proper steps to finish his career this time around.

PROUD & PURPLE

by ksubailey on Nov 24, 2008 4:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think this is longer than 5 years...

if he gets a staff that can really recruit and coach (you never know), he may build p and make one last run at this thing.

The guy still has his wits about him, that’s for sure. And I think he has a list of guys that would go to war with him if he asked, and some of them aren’t bad coacheas. If he can strike the right balance of youthful energy and tested experience, the sky is the limit.

i will say this; there have been rumors going around today regarding certain Kansas recruits that chose to go elsewhere in the past year that may be looking back towards Manhattan. If that’s the case, I have no doubt that we made a good call. The truly ‘right’ call? That’s up for debate, but after the press conference today, I have a sense of tempered optimism about this.

"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards

by Panjandrum on Nov 24, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll say this...

The guy looked 100 times better yesterday than he did at his retirement press conference and after his last game. Granted, those were stressful times…but he really looked great yesterday. Not to mention him jumping right in and scolding the media. Just like old times.

I do have a bit of an optimistic view at this point. I’m not happy at all with the way things were handled…not “contacting” anyone else, including Patterson, Wefald again not using any rationale in making a decision (especially one that really shouldn’t be his to make), etc…but I am slightly optimistic. I’ll reserve judgment until we know who the assistants are. That is what this whole thing hinges on.

For those who haven’t read it. J-Mart put out a pretty good article this morning. Take a read if you have a few minutes.

http://www.kansascity.com/165/story/907702.html

by gw1754 on Nov 25, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fliptitle.com

Though it doesn’t seem to show some of the characters in IE.

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by MadCat on Nov 24, 2008 10:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Posnanski

has a great article, as usual, about Snyder’s return. Makes me feel quite a bit better.

http://www.kansascity.com/180/story/907720.html

by atxcat on Nov 25, 2008 11:11 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why not Snyder?

As fans, KSU is our first concern. If HCBS never came to K-State, then our football legacy would most likely be a perpetual disappointment (much like it has been for the past few years with Prince). I know many wished we went in a different direction, instead of bringing back the best coach in the nation. Problem is, when you had the best, everyone else is just something less. I stated before, the removal of FHCRP was a slippery endeavor.

Having just watched the highlights on FoxMW ’No Huddle" of our game with ISU, all I can say is thank goodness that part of our history is over. It is not that FHCRP was a bad coach, nor the fact that he did not understand the game. Nor the fact that he could not recruit. No, the problem was on a deeper level. Failure to adjust. Pure and simple.

Like our defense, don’t even get me started. The same D last year as this year. If it did not work one year, it most likely will not work better the next. Did he change? No. Would he change? A season and a half says no. Sadly, we have talent on Defense, but ony rarely got to see it due too and absolute mismanagement of players.

Now, knowing all that, why on earth are so many against the return of Bill Snyder? The flood gates were open folks. We were out played by almost every team we played this year. ISU should have won that game hands down. Do we suck? No, not at all. Players play to the level they are coached. Prince was a 5 win coach at best, and that is with every bit of luck we can muster on our side. I you do not think Snyder can return us to our glory days, you are sadly mistaken. The North is weak, ripe for the taking. The man can coach, that in and of it self is good for 3 additional wins.

Would he had lost to CU this year? No.
Would he had let KU destroy us in the 1st quarter? No.

I’d take Snyder over anyone at this time. There is a loyalty there that you just don’t find now days. Everyone is looking for that next golden ring to grab. I would argue that if say Prince was left on the staff, that Snyder could turn him into a far better coach.

So, even taking off the purple shades for a bit, I do not see the gloom and doom. Snyder will hand pick his successor in a few years, meanwhile bringing an actual proven coach back to our sideline. People say, look at his last two years. Heck even Joe (PSU) had a bad two years. It was just one of those aberational times.

Put on a smile, hold your head up high. Snyder has RETURNED!

by KaosState on Nov 25, 2008 2:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OH NOOOOOOOOOOES!!!

Say it ain’t so:
Link

:D

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by MadCat on Nov 26, 2008 11:36 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

That has to be just the current coaches. If Bill keeps Tibesar, I swear to god i’m going to loose it.

Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.

by mystman995 on Nov 26, 2008 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What if he does retain them?

Seems far easier to keep the staff than replace it. HCBS is a very smart man, and an even better coach. Plus, he knows defense, which is more than FHCRP did. The players know these coaches, the ‘potential’ recruits know these coaches and the WORLD knows Bill Snyder.

You worry way too much folks. This aint no purple coolaid talking either. I’d keep him myself. Our defense was bad due to Prince not Tim. He recruited wrong and didn’t spend enough time on the field. Yave a wee bit of faith. You asked for a new head coach, the Lord provided it. He brought back The Man, which is far better than what is on the market now.

D.

by KaosState on Nov 27, 2008 6:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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