Open Game Thread: K-State @ KU
by TB on Nov 1, 2008 5:00 AM CDT
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Who: K-State @ KU
When: November 1, 2008 | 11:30 a.m.
Where: Lawrence, Kan. | Memorial Stadium (50,071)
Media: K-State Sports Streaming Audio, 1350 KMAN | FSN
It's Sunflower Showdown time, with the Governor's Cup on the line. I'll be in KC, but may or may not be in front of a computer. Make this your home for gameday, and feel free to throw in your thoughts, predictions, criticisms, and maybe even a little trash talk.
Go Cats!
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Big Implications for this game.
Mainly for Ku, but it should make an easy path for bowl eligibility.
Now if KU looses this game, they might be in some serious trouble. They have NU, UT, and MU left on the schedule. I figure at best they will end up 7-5. (which is exactly what I said before the season started – 4 conference wins maximum).
Remember if they loose this game, there’s a good chance that both of us could end up 6-6. Now who’s the bowl committee going to choose if there could only be one taken?
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
It makes me ill...
…to think about what could happen if we both end up 6-6.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Nov 1, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Traditionally we'd probably get the nod.
But who knows after the fluke that was last season. Depends if the bowl committee is still on that bandwagon, but we all know how that can get a little tiring after a while…..
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
If we win...
…you would think they’d take us. But we saw how much that mattered to the Orange Bowl Committee last year.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Nov 1, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Got to hate it when fluke teams beat you 52-21… :D
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Disagreement in context
He said:
the fluke that was last season
Technically, the “fluke” team beat KSU, 30-24.
Pinkel for America '08
http://www.RockMNation.com
by RPT on Nov 1, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
It does kill me when...
…we lose 52-21 to a team that’s probably going 7-5…at best. Shows you how far this team has fallen under Prince.
Well, it’s one of the many indicators.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Nov 1, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think...
the fall of K-State is amplified by the rise of the Big12 in general…it’s just become an extremely tough conference.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
So who's all going to be here for the game?
I’m at work right now, but I’ll be at home when the game starts. Then I’ll only be here for the first half..damn softball game…
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
I'm probably out
Going over to a friend’s house to watch, likely won’t have Internet access.
I think Panjandrum will be around, though. EMAW?
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Nov 1, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to be here
Just got done running errands/doing chores, and I’m sitting down to watch the game.
Kill the Hawks.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Man I hope so
If we come out flat, it’s over.
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Kill 'em all...
and let God sort ’em out.
No mercy boys. No mercy.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Speaking of Meier
Has he ben apart of any trick plays this year?
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Lapham just called Banks, "Papa Smurf"...
Should we be insulted by that?
Should Brandon?
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
I might
watch this game with the mute button on
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Generally speaking...
I hate FSN.
Before the game, they were playing highlights and previews form last week.
So, based on what I saw this morning, we can expect KU to hang tough with Tech per Joel Klatt.
I’m waiting in great anticipation for that.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
I don't know...
I can kind of see it:
I mean, don’t you see the resemblance?
Pinkel for America '08
http://www.RockMNation.com
Banks has a much better chance...
Of landing Smurfette.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
I don't know. I haven't watched many KU games...
I don’t think so though.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Coach Mangino..."How do you stop the Kansas State offense..."
Mangino: “You play good fundamental defense.”
Shit, he’s watched film. We’re screwed.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Nice throw there
ya hobbit.
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
He picked up the bounce pass from Chalmers before he went pro.*
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Reggie Walker just teabagged Dexton Fields...
Can I say ‘teabagged’ on here?
TB didn’t really tell me if I could or not.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
I don't see why not.
You’re just telling it like it is.
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
I love it how that was confidence
2 inches to the left and that’s knocked down and a stupid attempt.
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Can I get a third down stop please?
Please?
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Damn
The D isn’t looking good after that first drive
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
That's an understatement
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
For the love...
Thank goodness I chose to stay home. I’d be in jail by now if I was there.
PROUD & PURPLE
Viva Viagra...
I wonder if it could help our defense get up for the game.
(Okay, that was cheap, and I know it.)
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Just saw the replay...
Hartman should have been there to plug that hole.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
maybe
that’s the crib he was talking about
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
AAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
STOP WITH THE TRICK PLAYS DAMN IT!!!
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Welcome Back
LAMARK BROWN!!
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Seeing him on the field is beautiful..
in a totally non-gay way.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Don't stop believing!
Prince, it’s not time to give up on the run just because it didn’t work once.
PROUD & PURPLE
Murphy drops a pass...
No way…
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
that was a pretty sweet
juke to get back onto the field……
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
3rd and 1 in the shotgun...
luckily it worked, but I still hate that.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
I'd like to mention that wasn't Josh's fault...
But still, damn it.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
sonnavua bitch
BLOCK
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Take the hit!
He did that last week! Doesn’t he learn? You’re not a freshman anymore Freeman!
PROUD & PURPLE
Nice play by herndon
that ball should have been caught…twice…
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Well, he was already in the motion. Laptad hit him after he started...
The blocking on the left side broke down.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
God, we're pitiful...
This sucks.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
this is going to be
a long afternoon
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
You don't lose to KU three times in a row and keep you job...
especially considering how badly we’ve looked all year.
Find a way, Ron, or it’s going to get ugly fast.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Well, on a side note, I picked Jake Sharp for my RB this week...
Good call by me.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
How is it possible
that Jake Sharp can be an effective RB in the Big 12?
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Against us, I could be an effective running back
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Hmm....
Why does everything the KU fans are wearing look brand spanking new?
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
They use Cheer with Colorguard
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
that's if they've even washed them yet.
dirty hippies….
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
And the run
will be non existent
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Block in the back?
And why, oh why, did we waste a scholarship on a JUCO punter that gets a net of like 30 yards a punt?
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Bye, bye Ron.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
"He's adorable"
what?
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
My buddy just wondered
if Mangino “pleasures himself” while watching game film of us, knowing he was going to kick our ass…..
Let that marinate for a second….
i don't think
he can find anything down there. he hasn’t seen his ding dong since prior to the synder era….
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
That's cause Snyder made him eat a salad.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Maybe they'll institute the clock rule in the second half.
Jesus, just give me a mercy kill.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
What's with the flags?
C’mon. you can’t move the ball when everyone’s holding eachother.
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
and that's not even the first time he's done that
in the game…..
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
TB is angry.
That is all.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Well the good news is
that we held KU to fewer points than what we gave up to OU………….
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
I think he secretly grew up in Junction City being a jayhawk fan.
He wants us to look stupid.
PROUD & PURPLE
The Bad news is.
everything else…….
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Oh, and more good news
Jocques Crawford has yet to pass the 2000 yard milestone yet in this game….
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
If things get ugly, I'd like to start collecting suggestions for new HC candidates
Throw ‘em out there, and we’ll debate them in the focus group or something.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
What am I saying...
things are already ugly. Just start throwing out names.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Why not Papa Smurf?
He has great leadership skills..
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Harman finally make a tackle
and a great one at that
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Yes Reesing
please keep running the ball.
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
more pierce
less murphy
why is he on offense?
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
not really
milosh looked like he didn’t have a temper problem….
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
Oh for the love of god
on 1st down just do a qb sneak. up the middle, no shotgun. fuck.
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
I really can't watch this anymore.
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
I had to take the dog out for a walk...
Apparently, I didn’t miss much.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Oh, so we fumbled inside the one..
awesome
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
reesing sure throws
an ugly ball
Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.
I propose we officially change
Ron Prince’s name to “Mangino’s bitch”….
Okay, that’s probably harsh, but I’m just extremely pissed off right now.
Folks...
Apathy has finally struck me completely.
I just don’t give a shit anymore.
Don’t let up Fat Man. Assure us that Ron gets fired.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
From TB...
There are no more excuses. This coaching staff must go. We have to make a run at Patterson.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
We'll never get Patterson
And in another 3 years, we will be pissed and wanting to fire someone else.
PROUD & PURPLE
That's not true...
Patterson would actually put a decent product on the field.
All we want is progress. All Prince gives us is crap, and it gets worse every year.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
I'm not saying
Patterson wouldn’t do a great job. I’m saying he’s never leaving the good program he’s built at TCU to come save us.
PROUD & PURPLE
TB says...
If we’re going to lose, and we are, we might as well get embarrassed. No quarter from Mangina. Just make it ugly.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
We can get a good coach...
The AD needs to be willing to pony up the cash, and we have to target the right guys.
At this point, anything would be better than Ron.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
It's going to take every dime we have...
just to get rid of Ron. What will be left to hire someone else with?
PROUD & PURPLE
Our AD has been in the black for years...
At this point, with a $70 million fundraising project going on, we can’t afford to lose 25-30% of our season ticket holders. The loss in renewals and donations may be more than what it costs to buy him out and hire a new coach.
The money is there. We have enough big pocket guys that dislike Prince enough that they’d pay for a guy like Patterson.
God, I want this regime over with.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Darkhorse candidate
Dan McCarney. Think about it. He knows how to win in the B12 with less. Has a defensive and Iowa/Snyder background. Has been in FLA for last 2 years building ties (recruiting) while coaching at 2 great programs. Would bring Snyder back into the fold. Likely not going to be a bidding war for his services. Won’t bolt for greener pastures, would likely retire at KSU if successful.
Kinda like a Huggins-lite project, minus the baggage.
McCarney is interesting, but the problem is with how ISU crumbled at the end.
I never really looked at their situation in depth, but he’s probably worth an interview if we can’t get Gary.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Ugh...
My wife is worried that I might start throwing things.
If we were a good team losing like this…then I would be pissed.
I’m just frustrated with the coaching situation right now.
Patterson's not leaving TCU.
I don’t like Prince either. However, our AD hasn’t been making the most brilliant choices lately. I’m just saying… don’t be disappointed when we don’t get ANY of the people we want. Especially this head coaches from established programs. It’s ridiculous to think they’d want to come coach our train-wrecked program.
PROUD & PURPLE
Patterson may want to come home...
We can pay the money. That’s not an issue.
There are a lot of mid major guys that would want a shot, any shot, at a BCS program.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
I just remember
when Snyder retired, everyone had all these big ideas about who we’d hire. It didn’t even seem like any of those people were interested in K-State. Why would they be now?
I’m just concerned that we are going to hire another Prince and I can’t stand the thought of it.
PROUD & PURPLE
No, that's not necessarily true...
We offered Jim Leavitt, he said no, and then we went after Prince.
There was interest in the KSU job. We hired Prince based on a token interview we gave to placate the BCA requirements (I’m NOT making this a racial thing; it’s why he got the inerview.), and he wowed Weefer. After that, it was all over. The decision was made.
There was no coaching search. We hired Prince after the obvious choice turned us down for the program he built from nothing.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Who?
Yes, I know how Wefald can get blinded by an excellent speaker.
Who was interested? And how do you know? Are they still interested?
PROUD & PURPLE
Well, we all know that...
Venables was interested. He wouldn’t have been my choice, but he woud have been a better candidate than Prince.
Chuck Long was, but it’s a good thing he went to SDSU…
I had heard Patterson was interested, but he signed his extension right after he found out he wasn’t getting an interview.
Again, mostly scuttlebutt, but there was interest. Chizik went to ISU; I’d like to think we could have appraoched him if he showed even a bit of interest.
Most guys didn’t want to be the guy to follow Snyder, so I get that. However, even average coaches will get plenty of time after this year. Remember back to Asbury; we hated him so much we gave Wooly six years….
The same thing could happen again.
Gary, come home!
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Extension
The decision to extend Prince before this year was a colossally awful choice. Krause needs to take a pay cut to pay for that buyout.
I initially supported it...
But that’s because I assumed improvement would be made.
Huh, stupid me.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
That's my thought
Any coach being pursued by a BCS program has to understand that there must be something wrong for the university to be hiring a new coach. At least we wouldn’t be in the midst of a giant recruiting controversy (Colorado) or a cheating scandal (KU all the time)….
More screens!
Let’s keep running those!
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
FYI - Ed Orgeron was fired from Ole Miss after three years...
Just throwing that our there
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
No, I'm just pointing out that there is a precedent for firing BCS coaches after three years.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Oh, God, no...
People just say that you don’t fire a coach after only three years.
There is a precedent for that.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
Alright, folks...
We’re going out of town tonight, so I’m going to get to packing.
Talk amonst yourselves.
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
TB wants me to post...
“Don’t call it a comeback.”
"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today." -- Tryon Edwards
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